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i want them to meet the people that their cuts are going to effect. if they met them, maybe they would change their minds. >> great to have you on "the ed show" tonight. i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts now. good evening. >> good evening, ed. tonight's lead, president obama's got you covered with republicans threatening a government shutdown over the health care law, the president is taking a stand and setting the record straight. just five days before people start signing up for obama care, the president went to maryland and told a roaring crowd what the law is really all about. >> if you couldn't afford coverage for your child because he had asthma, he's covered. if you couldn't afford coverage because you were told heartburn was a pre-existing condition, you're covered.
if you're one of the 45 million americans with a mental illness, you are covered. if you're a young adult or entrepreneur striking out on your own, you're covered. if you're a young couple who had insurance that didn't include maternity benefits and now you need maternity benefits, you're covered. if you lose your job and your health care with it, you're covered. >> he's got you covered. that's what this law's all about. and the president called out republicans who would rather shut down the government than let the law take effect. >> some have threatened a government shutdown if they can't shut down this law. others have actually threatened an economic shutdown by refusing to pay america's bills if they
can't delay the law. that's not going to happen as long as i'm president. the affordable care act is here to stay. >> the health care law is here to stay. and that's what the american people want. a new poll from the "new york times" show 80% of americans say it's not acceptable to threaten a government shutdown. and 60% say the debt ceiling debate should be separate from obama care. it's the law. it's not a bargaining chip. and the president says it won't be long before republicans change their tune about all of this. >> here is a prediction for you. a few years from now when people
are using this to get coverage and everybody's feeling pretty good about all the choices in competition they've got, there are going to be a whole bunch of folk who is say, yeah, no, i always thought this provision was excellent. i voted for that thing. you watch. it will not be called obama care. >> they'll probably want to call it boehner care or mcconnell care. or maybe even cruz care. but for now the crowd there in maryland have a pretty good idea of what this fight is really about. >> think about it. if it was as bad as they said it was going to be, they could let it happen and have everybody hate it so much and vote to repeal it. that would be the end of it.
so what is it that they're so scared about? >> that's the truth of this whole thing. republicans are scared of this president. and they're scared that this law will work. joining me now are congresswoman donna edwards, democrat of maryland. and david corn. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> congresswoman, you were with the president today. in fact, you spoke to the crowd before him. do you think the american people are starting to learn the truth about this law? >> they are. and i'll tell you one thing, i was just listening to this now and i felt as electrified as i did when i was there listening to the president. he spoke in plain language, he made it really clear. i have to tell you, if republicans want to defund, they want to shutdown the government, they want to, you know, not pay america's bills and the
president said bring that on. because the american people aren't buying it. >> you know, david, the president was really selling this today in maryland. just days away from people can start signing up for health insurance under this law on this coming tuesday. and the president said that people will really like what they see. take a listen. >> i promise you if you go on the website and it turns out you're going to save $100, $200, $300 on your insurance or you'll be able to buy for the first time, even if you didn't vote for me, i'll bet you'll sign up for that health care plan. >> even if you didn't vote for him, david, you will sign up for a cheaper health plan, david. is that going to be the key
here? people who were opposed to the law will start seeing the benefits. >> i think the republicans are right in that right now the public opinion poll shows most people don't like the law or aren't sure about it. and certainly not keyed into the benefits when you call it obama care and you talk about it in one big gulp. so this is the republicans' really last chance to win this fight in terms of rhetoric. they've done a great job of never saying die. they're like the japanese soldiers in the end of world war ii. saying don't believe it's over. even when the bill passes. the president had other things he had to do. run the government and move onto other priorities. the people funding the campaign against this kept the a campaign going. i think by and large most americans what they've heard about obama care up to now is probably more negative than positive. but finally, you know, in the
next few months, next year or so people have more and more data points sometimes affecting their own life, they can use to make a more informed judgment of the law. i think that's what a lot of republicans don't want to see happen or as ted cruz and others say, americans will become addicted to good policies and health care. they don't want american people addicted to health care because then they won't vote against it down the road. >> the other thing that struck me was the president got personal when he was talking about this. you were there, but it really struck me when i was watching the tape. listen to this where he got very personal about this. >> i remembered my mom worrying about how she was going to deal with her finances when she got very sick. i remember the fear michelle and i felt when sasha was a few months old and she got meningitis and we raced to the hospital and they had to give her a spinal tap.
we didn't know what was wrong and we were terrified. never felt so scared or helpless in all of my life, but we were fortunate enough to have good health insurance. and i remember looking around that emergency room and thinking what about the parents not that lucky? in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one should go broke just because they get sick. >> congresswoman, isn't this really something that every american just about knows someone in their family, someone they know and care about that has struggled with health insurance and health issues. >> i think so. i think the president sharing the story of his mother and their experience as parents with their daughter, that all of our families are touched by someone with not adequate health insurance. and the president spoke to that today in a personal way. but he also said, you know what?
change is here. and we're going to fix that. for 480,000 marylanders without health insurance, beginning on october 1st, they can start signing up. then come january 1st, they won't have those fears and worries again. if they're parents, seniors, working people. they won't have those worries again. >> david b i want to go back to what you said how the republicans are right now because there's ban negative spin and there's been money spent promoting against obama care. so the public has a view of that based on all of this negativism. but they're afraid as it goes forward. if you look at what this bill does, 56% of people without insurance, 56% would be able to get insurance for less than $100 a month. now, the president said that republicans afraid of this law
to succeed. and you in so many words said the same thing. i mean, look at what ted cruz himself said about that. >> when the exchanges kick in and subsidies kick in. once they kick in, it's almost impossible to undo obama care. the administration's plan is very simple. get everyone addicted to the sugar so obama care remains a permanent feature of our society. >> so once it kicks in, they want you addicted to a permanent sugar. now, david, where i'm from sugar's sweet. so he's admitting the sweetness if it starts so they got to stop it now. >> wait a second. sugar's bad for you. kids out there watching, sugar's not good for you. so take a step back. and just look at what what he's saying. he's saying we don't want
americans addicted to a health care policy plan that may actually work. as obama said earlier today, if this goes down in flames there'll be no problems politically getting rid of it in the next couple of years. may take an election cycle or two. but if medicare and medicaid and social security didn't work for a majority of americans, we would have voted it out. but they worked and made a better society. ted cruz and others have this libertarian point of view. they don't want this to succeed. it's not their fear it won't. they actually don't want it to succeed. and in 21 hours, what did ted cruz tell us about how to insure those who don't get insurance? nothing. dr. seuss told us more about health care policy than ted cruz. so this is the alamo for these guys. and they don't want the government being involved even in a market-oriented way and delivering this policy. they don't want it to work. >> they don't want it to work. and when you think about what they don't want to work is
insuring people that need health insurance, it is absolutely unbelievable that these are elected leaders in our country. >> this is their last stand. and the fact is we're not going to allow them to shut down the government. and we're not going to allow them to say that the united states won't pay its bills and meet the full faith and credit of our good name. and we're not going to do it over health care. what we're going to do is we're going to get all americans health care starting october 1st, they're going to sign up january 1st. >> i'm going to have to leave leave it there. thank you both for your time. coming up, four days away from a government shutdown. and today speaker boehner shows again he doesn't have the guts to stand up to the tea party. and president obama came out and hammered the billionaire right wingers bank rolling this shameful anti-obama care ad. you don't want to miss this.
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the federal government will shut down in just over 100 hours unless republicans stop playing games. today speaker john boehner made it clear he's still letting the tea party run the show. here's what he said about the simplest path to avoiding a shutdown. >> in light of bringing this debt limit bill to the floor, will you now accept a clean cr from the senate with a government shutdown? >> i do not see that happening. >> republicans are still playing games. in fact, they're about to make things even worse. they're working on a new plan to raise the debt limit next month
that includes a laundry list of the worst right wing ideas from the last few years. a plan that shows they still don't accept they lost the election. >> joining me now is democrat from rhode island. he serves on the health committee playing a pivotal role in writing and implementing the affordable care act. thanks for joining me, senator. >> good to be with you, reverend. >> the next critical month on government shutdown is tomorrow. so where do things stand right now? in your opinion, let me just ask you frankly, will republicans shut down the government? >> it looks that way. it looks as if we are going to send back to the house tomorrow a clean continuing resolution that will allow the government to continue to operate and despite the failure of its first effort that the speaker is going to send back another continuing
resolution with a bunch of republican platform stuff attached to it. and just the time it takes us to turn that around might very well put us into the shutdown mode. at this point we're doing everything we can. we've had a little delay here. it appears a couple of senators have wanted to postpone the vote until tomorrow so they can organize a bigger audience for their antics. that takes some of the critical time away that we need to avoid the shutdown. but they don't seem to care about that. they're more interested in the audience and in the antics than in the effect on americans. >> so while they're setting up these theatrics, precious time is being wasted. and we may because millions of americans would have an opportunity to be insured, we may shut down government meaning veterans and others would be directly effected because they want to stop this bill that for the first time in decades gives an opportunity to billions of
americans to be insured that didn't have that option just a little while ago. >> yeah. and help seniors who are in the doughnut hole to the tune of $1,000 each and helps families with 26-year-olds or with kids with pre-existing conditions. on and on goes the litany of good things the law has brought. and they are not terrified it's not going to work. they're terrified it is going to work. >> now, senator, the other thing that adds insult to injury is the gop bill to raise the debt limit. we're told that it includes a one-year delay obama care, keystone pipeline, paul ryan's tax plan, more offshore drilling, more greenhouse gases. i mean, many folks have pointed out that this is essentially mitt romney's economic plan. don't republicans realize they lost the election? >> i have heard that they tried
to put essentially the entire republican platform that failed at the ballot in the presidential election and stuff it onto the debt limit and when they try to do that, they still couldn't get their caucus agreed. so they are in a complete state of turmoil over on the house side. the speaker is contributing to that by refusing to exert any discipline over the right swing tea party extremists who at this point are pulling our country off the economic cliff. >> well, we'll be watching this one. and mr. boehner showing no guts, i'm not sure we should call him the speaker. maybe the whisperer because it seems he's afraid to speak out and use his gavel for anything. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. coming up, president obama calls the billionaires out behind that creepy uncle sam ad.
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and he went right after their distortions and lies. cutting them down with a remarkable display of sarcasm. >> they have made such a big political issue out of this trying to scare everybody with lies about death panels and killing granny. one of the biggest newspapers in the country recently published an editorial that said the republicans in congress are poisoning obama care then trying to claim it's sick. one more that i've heard, i like this one. we have to -- and i'm quoting here -- we have to repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens. now, i have to say that one was from six months ago. i just want to point out we
still have women. we still have children. we still have senior citizens. all this would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. >> yes, it would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. then he called the right wing billionaire koch brothers shaming them for the anti-obama care ad they're paying. >> some of the wealthiest men in america are funding a cynical ad campaign trying to convince young people not to buy health care at all. i mean, think about it. these are billionaires several times over, you know they've got good health care. but they are actually spending money on television trying to convince young people that if you've got the choice between getting affordable health care
or going without health care, you should choose not having any health care. now, do you think if you get sick or you get hurt and you get stuck with a massive bill these same folks, they're going to help you out? >> he was talking about this ad with the creepy looking uncle sam. it captures everything that's wrong with the attacks on obama care and this president. never has a president been so undermined with personal attacks. but he's showing he's bigger than that and he is bigger than that. and this law, that will help millions of lives is here to stay. joining me now, goldie taylor and jamal simmons. thank you both for being here. >> good evening. >> thank you. >> goldie, if republicans wanted a fight with this president over obama care, they sure got one
today, didn't they? >> they certainly did. i was sort of half watching the television set when the president walked up to the podium. when i heard him light into the gop today, i said where has that guy been? i was glad to see him today. i've got a friend of mine who lost his job a couple years ago and lost his health care. could not afford the cobra payments. and got tragically sick. wound up having to file bankruptcy. and the next job opportunity that was afforded to him, he did not get because he didn't have the credit rating that the company who was hiring him wanted him to have. there's a catch 22 here that people are locked in their jobs because they're afraid of getting sick or have an existing illness that won't be covered if they move to another plan. obama care solves that. one in four americans are literally locked into their jobs because they can't afford the gap in health care coverage. >> now, jamal, fox news has often resorted to scare tactics
when it comes to the new health law. listen to this. >> looks like obama care is already descending into chaos. >> the death panels are in fact alive and well. >> of course there are death panels. >> now some broken promises are hitting those who need health care the most. sticking it to the seniors. >> so today the president called out fox news directly for spreading misinformation. listen. >> if you've talked to somebody who said i don't know, i was watching fox news and they said this was horrible. and you can say, you know what? don't take my word for it, go on the website, see for yourself what the prices are, see for yourself what the choices are, then make up your own mind. that's all i'm asking. make up your own mind. >> he went directly at them,
jamal. >> he did go directly at them. barack obama is at his best when he's campaigning. that's what he's doing right now. he knows he's got to get millions of americans to sign up starting on october 1st, go to the website and start to sign up for this health care plan. what they also know is that although some people say they were against the plan, some were for it, 69% of people whether for or against it want it to work. you remember the saying from back in the '90s around affirmative action, mend it don't end it. they don't want to get rid of it, they want to fix it. if the republicans were smart, they'd find a way to fix some of the problems they think exist and make that work. because that's where most of their voters are. >> now, goldie, you know, i remember last year republican state lawmaker in new hampshire compared obama care to the fugitive slave act of 1850. listen to this.
>> what is obama care? it is a law as destructive to personal and individual liberty as a fugitive slave act of 1850 that allowed slave owners to come to new hampshire and use the federal courts to take them back to federal slave states. >> the president mocked that comparison today. listen. >> you had a state representative somewhere say that it's as destructive to personal and individual liberty as the fugitive slave act. think about that. affordable health care is worse than a law that lets slave owners get their runaway slaves back. i mean, these are quotes. i'm not making this stuff up. >> goldie, he was really on fire today.
>> he was on fire. you know, those kinds of remarks like the state rep in new hampshire put out are simply -- they simply take your breath away. as did ted cruz on the floor the other night comparing this legitimative process to the nazis. that kind of rhetoric really sort of debases this entire argument. what you've got to understand is republicans are spending their time, their energy, and their money in breaking down this law the best way they can. what they ought to be doing is spending that money on public health information, on showing people how to use this program to their best, to the best for their family. to help them get the access to affordable and quality care every family richly deserves. that's where their emphasis ought to lie. instead, they are squarely aimed at targeting this president and the, you know, landmark piece of legislation he was able to get through with legislative action that was approved by the supreme court and that he was re-elected based upon. you know, what they haven't seen
is that meat really is greasy. >> and the fact is at the end of the day, as long as i can remember, we have wanted to see some kind of measure passed that would give health care insurance to millions of americans that could not get it, could not afford it, could not protect their families. and what bothers me whether it's this president or whomever is that you finally get there. it may not be perfect, but it's more than we ever had and it will take care of millions of people. and you're going to use all of these distortions, outright lies, and even threaten to shut the government down rather than millions of people who never were insured, never had the opportunity, never had the security of their families and you would go to this degree just because of some brinkmanship and
some politics? this is what's so disgusting to me. back in the '90s when the clintons tried to do health care, it doesn't matter to me what president it is, what matters to me is i know the feeling growing up of not having the security of if you get sick, you don't know whether you can afford to even try to get well. and to put people in that kind of risk and to live with that kind of insecurity, you'd say i'd rather close down the government than take care of those people. those people need to be opposed and opposed aggressively. thank you for your time tonight. >> amen. >> thank you. on a day when president obama's hammering home his message, it's only fitting to be joined by richard wolffe who just published his new book about the 2012 campaign titled "the message: the reselling of president obama." richard, today was a reminder
that this president can be extremely effective at selling his ideas, wasn't it? >> he was on fire as goldie said. but he was also hitting something that's really important. one thing, he's taken a beating over the last few weeks. here he was at his strength when the republicans think they've got him on the run. and the message isn't just about selling something. it's about having a purpose. and his speech today hit on taking the fight to the republicans, but also talking about health care in a way that people understand. one of the problems with obama care is this big spoiling thing, he put it in real terms about the economy. you mentioned it. health care is about whether you can afford it or not. this is what he had to dig out of the election where the bad economy turning around with a to t focused campaign.
>> when he's campaigning he brings the message down so the average voter can understand it. one of the things that i think that the opposition to obama care as it's called has taken advantage of is it's so voluminous that no one understood it. but the more he crystallizes the points in his voter friendly style, or campaign style, which your book effectively talks about how he dealt with 2012. people would say wait a minute. that's what we want. wait a minute, what's wrong with that? the clearer it becomes, the harder it is for his opposition. >> remember, the last election was fought on the economy. the economy is a big sprawling thing. taxes are a scary thing. they figured a way to run against the whole economy talking about getting a fair shot and a fair shake. i think you saw some of that clarity today from the president. but he's got to talk about the economy. what he was re-elected for. as long as he's talking about the debt ceiling and about, you know, one piece of continuing
budget resolutions, it's not going to work for him. this stuff today is pocketbook politics. and that's what he does well. >> you know, one part of your book that i thought about that gave a lot of thought, you write about the president and his team what they accomplished. we'll read a quote from the book. on one measure of change, obama's record matched his life long ambitions and the vision he mapped out in 2007 and 2008. participation. for the first time ever, the rate of african-american turnout surpassed white turnout at almost two-thirds and the jump was especially high among black women. >> you know, i first started talking to him way back, 2007, 2008 traveling around. and i asked him what does change mean to you? you're campaigning about change. what does it mean? and the first twenty minutes of his answer was about participation. about getting new people into politics, into voting.
that's what 2012 was about. and i think that that's something he takes very seriously as a matter of pride. very striking this time around. republicans were diluting themselves because they did not believe infrequent voters especially african-americans would show up in greater numbers than 2008. >> they didn't even believe they'd show up in the same numbers. >> no. >> what i think they did foolishly and i think they're doing with obama care is they came after the african-american vote with various voter suppression schemes. voter i.d. law changing, early voting changing. they ignited a turnout and an anger that may not have been there had they not tried to overdo it. >> and i think they're overdoing it now telling people not to participate in health care. remember, health care right now is about participation. about signing people up. these ads, these crazy ads, people don't understand about obama care and what policies they have. but these ads they can see are overreach. if you tell people you should
not get health care, they're going to say what are you talking about? if they are setting up the challenge of signing people up, that's something this president can do. >> they do not understand every article of obama care. they do understand the emergency room being their doctor and this gets them out of that. >> right. >> great book. thank you for your time. again, his new book is called "the message: the reselling of president obama." ahead, will there be justice for marissa alexander? it's a case that sparked national outrage. 20 years for firing a warning shot. today big news. her lawyer joins us live coming up.
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we're back with a developing story in a case we've been following out of florida. marissa alexander is serving 20 years for a warning shot. she said her husband who had a history of domestic violence was assaulting her and fired a shot that hit the ceiling. no one was hurt, but she was sent to prison for 20 years. for trying to defend herself. how is this justice in america? but today a florida appeals court is ordering a new trial. joining me now is marissa alexander's attorney faith gaye and florida congresswoman colleen brown who's been fighting to get her a second
chance. can thank you both for being here. let me start with you, faith. first of all, what was marissa's reaction when she got the news today? >> she was ecstatic as we all were. she was grateful to all of her supporters and she's looking forward to seeing her family and three children again soon. >> three children. she was sentenced to 20 years and not allowed to use stand your ground which we all know and have dealt with a lot here on this show with the zimmerman case. but this was not the reason she got a new trial. why was she given a new trial? >> because she had been forced to prove her own innocence in this case. and in this country we always make sure if the government accuses you of a crime, the government has to prove what it said has happened. and in this case, the government flipped the burden of proof and forced her to prove she was assaulted by her violent ex-husband. >> now, congresswoman brown, you really have been fighting this
case as well as trayvon martin and other cases. as i know a lot of folk in jacksonville, you are the fighter. but the appeals court ruled today the jury instructions were wrong. quote, we reject her contention that the trial court ered in declining to grant her immunity from prosecution under florida's stand your ground law, but we remand for a new trial because the jury instructions on self-defense were erroneous. this is exactly what some argued in the zimmerman case that it was not clear that they did not have to prove that trayvon martin was defending himself. it seems like this whole self-defense and charging of the juries in florida becomes very interesting. >> let me just say we are very excited she will get an opportunity for a new trial.
but i am hoping that we can get a little mercy. she has been in jail for three years. she's not spent any time with her baby. and keep in mind, when this incident occurred, she -- the baby was eight days old. >> wow. >> when she was six months pregnant, he beat her and put her in the hospital. no one can understand how you could fire a warning shot and get 20 years. the day that it happened, there was a restraining order against him. so if this isn't stand your ground, we need a redefinition of what is stand your ground and of course -- >> attorney gay, the little baby, restraining order, and she did not shoot anybody. warning shot into the ceiling, no one hurt. and she gets 20 years. a man killed in the same state
and the guy walks acquitted. >> there's stand your ground which you talked about. there's also the mandatory minimums which are something that need to be thought about politically. but on top of that, it's not just a new trial she's getting. she's getting a trial with a proper burden on the state, not hurt. it's a big deal. >> now, you congresswoman brown, had confronted the prosecutor saying this was unjust and unfair. now that we're dealing with the burden shifted back, can we not only see some justice for marissa alexander, but some defining as you state about stand your ground and about these sentencing requirements that attorney gay just referred to. >> well, first of all, when it comes to miss alexander, i am hoping that the prosecutor and the community will come together and heal and drop all charges so she can be home at thanksgiving with her family. that's the first thing. but stand your ground needs if
nothing else it needs to be amended. because it is clearly a problem in how it's used in certain cases depending on who the plaintiff. secondly, the judges need more discretion in these cases. i mean, 20 years, no prior, masters degree with a job. i don't understand that. >> now, attorney gay, you heard the congresswoman. she'd like to see her get out by thanksgiving. are you going to make an application far bail pending this new trial? >> first of all, i say amen to having no new trial anywhere. i think she's served enough, she's been in jail for a long time. no one was hurt, she had a good record, she was an upstanding citizen. it should be over. >> and the prosecutor can't agree to not retry this. >> absolutely. but in terms of where we're going next, we're going to make a bail application. there are changed circumstances here. she's no longer a convicted felony facing 20 years.
she's someone who's accused of a crime where no one was hurt. >> of shooting the ceiling. >> and she's been in for awhile. she's paid a lot already. >> congresswoman, i'm sure you'll be convening to make the appeal that this prosecutor not retry this. >> absolutely. the ministers, the community is already coming together. they are going to petition and they're asking people to call in, petition the state attorney and say she served enough time. let's come together and let me community heal. >> fighting congresswoman corrine brown and attorney faith gay, thank you for your time tonight. we'll be right back to remember a civil rights icon. ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.
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evelyn lowry has passed. evelyn and joseph were together nearly 70 years. she was by his side for some of the most pivotal moments of the civil rights movement. evelyn was also a trail blazer in her own right. she founded the women's inc. sister group of the southern leadership conference, focused on the rights of women, children, and families. evelyn lowry was 88 years old. i've been involved in civil rights since my pre-teen years. i've met a lot of people who have come and gone. many who have come of recognition and reached fame like evelyn and joseph lowry maybe begin to act more like celebrity than activist, but evelyn never was any more than a humble civil rights activist. never looked for limelight,